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Of the shocks they try to use. they've not done well. you see the videos where the chechnyan forces are just chewed up. the better odds are to trade off time and do the siege warfare. >> client watts, thank you for explaining to us. we greatly appreciate it. it is obvious if they had gone in there the russians would have been ground down. let's bring in u.s. national editor at "the financial times" ed luce, and also bureau chief at polite ko jonathan lemire. ed, he doesn't have to sit now at a table the size of a football pitch. secondly, i think we are hearing

We had a man at the washington monument that wanted to ban nuclear weapons and he claimed to have thousands of milligrams of explosives and they shot and killed him. you can't have someone drive around a city with a bomb they're threatening to detonate even if it is just a hoax. if you tried to leave they would have to stop him. but the preferred method is to back that perimeter up, negotiate, and try to get him to surrender. >> i want to bring in client watts who is now a distinguished research fellow and an msnbc national security analyst. let me pick up if i can, clint, where jim left off. ...

>> i'm at the end of my career. >> but it's a reputation that you worked your whole life on. >> yeah, but everyone dies. i don't think immortality comes from -- >> all right then, there you go. joining me now, former fbi special agent client watts. malcolm nans who is what barr said, and i'm just going to reread you his quote. he thinks the irony is people say it is donald trump that is shaeding our institutions. basically throwing everything at him, that is where the shleddin

Account and began sharing anti-jewish images, conspiracy theories about jews controlling the world, and criticism of president trump, whom he implied was too accommodating of jewish influence. nbc news reports the shooting suspect frequently wrote on gab where he, quote, made a specific threat against jews hours before saturday's attack, alleging that the hebrew immigrant aid society, hias, a humanitarian nonprofit group that assists refugees, brought immigrants to the united states to do violence. screw your optics, i'm going in, he wrote. gab said the data from bowers' account was backed up ...

Accommodating extremism may have been what drew mr. bowers to the site. in january he signed up for an account and began sharing anti-jewish images, conspiracy theories about jews controlling the world, and criticism of president trump, whom he implied was too accommodating of jewish influence. nbc news reports the shooting suspect frequently wrote on gab where he, quote, made a specific threat against jews hours before saturday's attack, alleging that the hebrew immigrant aid society, hias, a humanitarian nonprofit group that assists refugees, brought immigrants to the united states to do vio...