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Emergent, a nonprofit dedicated to reducing global deforestation. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> so, the president says the u.s. is back as a global leader on climate change following the passage of the inflation reduction act, which included around $370 billion in clean energy incentives meant to slash the use of harmful green house gases and rejoin the paris climate accord. so, do you agree that those things shows the u.s. is, indeed, back as a global leader on client change? >> yeah. the u.s. is back. they're back participating in a meaningful way in this process, which is so ...

Effect. it is the language that starts most of these agreements. i think we are clear this deal was only about the threat of nuclear weapons to the world and only dealt with that issue. because if iran had nuclear weapons it would project even more power into the middle east and deter our actions with our allies. i am no apologist with iran whatsoever. they are doing very bad things in the middle east. we need to counter that with sanctions we currently have on them, for their acts of terrorism, arms exchanges, for missile launches. we ought to enforce that, ought to enforce the deal vigorousl...

White house as we approach crunch time. ketchin? >> kevin: you are right what we expect the president to say is currently constructed the first climate agreement does not serve the best interests of the american people whchl is why we expect the president to pull out of the deal or major portions this afternoon in the rose garden opening the door for more negotiation or as the white house call its fairer climate negotiation. as it is designed the paris climate acord is supposed to gradually reduce e missions that cause climate change especially among the world's biggest pollute ors. 195 nation...

Unattended to. not for one day. we have had meetings, we have had constant consultations. on the first trip that i made to china when i raised the issue of the climate negotiation that resulted in china joining us w us, i spent most of ta trip and most of that time on north korea. now, china had a particular approach that it wanted to make, and we agreed and respected to give them spaps ce to be able t implement that. but today in my conversation with the chinese, i made it very clear. that has not worked and we cannot continue business as usual. >> so as you may have noticed from that video, ...

>> and through the states. >> while these are positive steps in the right direction, let's be very clear. these are baby steps compared to the scale of the problem. >> here's the thing. i want to invert that around. what ends up happening is, what is so insidious about this new kind of rhetoric about futility we have seen in the american domestic political context, it's precisely your argument, right? they say, well, what are we really going to do, we're nibbling at the margins and china and india have all these coal plants. so what ends up happening, they have gone from denying the problem to...