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Yes, and we have a dialogue with these companies in a constructive manner where we solve... so, on what basis are you an ethical investor? well, we think we are a very ethical investor. we have very strong expectations to the companies we invest in along the lines of the climate side, we have four expectation documents, we have expectations when it comes to corruption, child labour, tax and transparency and so on. we think we have the most coherent set of expectations of any investor in the world. does it embarrass you that the total emissions of the companies in your fund far exceed the total...

Views this. >> you could say that was odd for him to say it's personal. well, i think it's kind of odd to go bdeep on somebody's religion in american politicians. we gave trump a complete pass, right? the man came out as president, said i have a new relationship with god. they had a couple of evangelists say the same thing and nobody ever measured it again, whether he was at services, how he lived. so that's a little unusual. on the climate side, let hop over to bill. bill, what did you make of president biden talking the aspirational talk that certainly we're not unfamiliar with from democrat...

Largest -- what this larger human infrastructure bill is about, i can argue two categories, climate and equality. there were derivatives down from there. how concerned are you that the climate piece has gotten too small? >> well, i'm very concerned on the family investment side, we're going to have investments in day care. it's going to be huge when pre schools will be huge, investments in housing is so important for families, each one by themselves will be an enormous victory. on the climate side, we cannot miss this opportunity. we can think back to the first president bush ran the democrat ...

Piece, on the climate side of things inside of this legislation, it is something with no precedent up to this point. so that is what you're hearing from the white house on the messaging side of things and then the president was in camp david this weekend and on the phone and meeting via zoom and phone calls to hammer out the details that are so critical here. one thing i would note, the president, i asked him, how is he going to measure success by the end of the week given the convergence of the deadlines self-imposed and otherwise. he made clear everything might not get done this week. but he...

The challenges along the way, getting back to global stability, getting off of twitter. and if big things need to be done -- it's crazy we haven't been able to get a meaningful inextra structure bill through, all through this president's time and even before, not since the recovery act. how do we make sure that climate is an opportunity? we propose a $307 billion infrastructure investments just when it gets to the climate side. with the instability of this president it's only caused instabilities to decide whether they should make that next investment. >> a medical student at columbia universi...