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Intimate to your caucus he was coordinating everything with the white house? >> no, not at all. nothing like this. >> joyce? joyce? >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear you, ari. >> i just called on you to get your response. >> like norm i was gob smacked last night when i first saw this tape. it was very difficult to process that the leader of the senate went on national television and vowed to violate the oath of office that he was going to take when impeachment proceedings started. and as i have watched it over and over today i'm even more disbelieving than i was the first time that i saw it. of c...

As we mentioned, tom daschle told dana bash yesterday during the clinton process he worked closely with the white house, not the president specifically. but mcconnell is not someone who does a lot of television interviews. why was it important for him to make that clear that he's working so closely with the white house. >> look. as a core responsibility of anybody in his position is to short of reassure not just his party but the nation as a whole what's going to happen wlrks it's good news or bad news. personally i feel better knowing that it's going to be exactly the kind of partisan exercis...

>> joyce? joyce? >> i'm sorry. i couldn't hear you, ari. >> i called on you for your response to the whole issue. >> yeah. i did and like norm, i was gaub smacked last night when i first saw this tape. it was very difficult to process that the leader of the senate went on national television and vowed to vilatd the oath of office. that he was going to take when impeachment proceedings started. as i have watched it over and over today, i'm even more disbelieving than i was the first time that i saw it. of korgs we know that's not how the clinton process worked. it is, of course, inherently a po...

>> joyce? joyce? >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear you, ari. >> i just called on you to get your response. >> like norm i was gob smacked last night when i first saw this tape. it was very difficult to process that the leader of the senate went on national television and vowed to violate the oath of office that he was going to take when impeachment proceedings started. and as i have watched it over and over today i'm even more disbelieving than i was the first time that i saw it. of course we know that's not how the clinton process worked. it of course is a coherent political process. the problem ...

So a lot of people would suggest, well, this is sort of a waste of everybody's time and taxpayer money, and there are political consequences of that as well, aren't there? >> well, the political consequences are unclear. it's certainly animating for a portion of the republican base, but you also have to bear in mind that this impeachment process is considerably more popular according to public polling than either the clinton process or the nixon process if you go back to 1974. so you actually have a significant -- you have a significant amount of evidence to suggest that a majority of the publ...