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states to delve into more specific gun legislation that they thought was necessary. obviously what is going to work in california and what is going to pass in texas two very different outcomes there. but very significant that you had cornyn talking about this yesterday, in texas, that lawmakers are going to be having these discussions. and i'm told the goal and hope is that they might be able to have some framework when they return from their recess. now, that's not very much time, but as you know, time can really be an enemy if you don't come up with some kind of solution in the int...

Investigations as that they knew, both pence and trump, but particularly trump, because as part of the strategy, that he would be able to run the clock. he knew more likely than not, when the 118 congress proceeded, this committee was gonna be disbanded, which it was. he only had to play a waiting game. what he's doing now as he's alleging executive privilege because he knows that that same sort of, let me run out the clock strategy is not going to be successful in a federal court of law. the timeline does not add up in the same way that it did when you're talking about the congressional heari...

And multiple rulings. the chief justice slammed their utter refusal to comply with this court's orders as rulings of law. but this past friday, a federal court voted to allow ohio's legislative map to go forward this cycle, despite the fact it has been declared unconstitutional multiple times. essentially it rewards the run out the clock strategy, while also ignoring u.s. supreme court's previous decision that federal courts shouldn't weigh in on state redistricting. this is cynical and lawless through the looking glass stuff. and while we wait for the final congressional maps in ohio, it is n...

Getting documents here. the fact that those documents now will get turned over from the archives to the committee, significant, anna? we know they already have some. there may be more out there. it feels like, from the dribs and drabs we're getting from reporting out of the committee, it is somewhat useful, right? we can read the tea leaves and think, okay, it seems maybe they do have these call logs and they are, you know, getting information that could help them in an investigation. >> yeah. it is putting the puzzle pieces together, right? i think for this, the big issue for president trump ...

Dug up. >> mike, you've run a lot of campaigns in your day. and a fair number of them, i know, as they come down to the wire. you find yourself employing a run out the clock strategy. so what donald trump and his minions are doing now must be familiar to you in the political context. i'm curious whether you think that we can all keep all kinds of scorn and mockery on this, but in fact that there is some sense to it, if you think that, as i think you do, republicans are likely to take control of one house or two or more in the midterm elections, is this a strategy that is pathetic, but could be...