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Can you explain to folks at home exactly what is 8 chant? >> 8 chance is an anonymous online platform that houses fringe ideas and extremist ideologies that tend to be very right-wing. it house the manifestoes in 3 recent shootings so it is supported by cloud fair. before monday, that is, now it appears to be taken off-line but it is styled in the same way as for chan, the things that house the daily stormer and other places for people to kind of ferment these extremist ideologies and talk anonymously. >> like a forum where people can go back and forth sharing ideas, that type of thing and pos...

To spread the poison across the internet. and inspire others. >> these web sites use companies that provide infrastructure for the sites to run smoothly online. cloud fair serviced the daily stormer until 2017. when he faced pressure to drop it off the deadly violence in charlottesville. last night cloud fair dropped 8 chan. calling it lawless and caused multiple tragic deaths and another service provider earlier today also dropped 8 chan. it hasn't responded to cnn inquiries. one of the administrators said we will be moving to another service. please excuse any down time. for their part, law ...

Minutes ago. our last check at 3:00 a.m. eastern time. it is offline, this after internet infrastructure company cloudfair stopped providing support for the site. officials believe the suspect in the el paso shooting posted a white nationalist message on the site just before that attack. cloudflare says it will no longer help 8chan online because it believes the site is, quote, lawless. it goes on to say this. even if 8chan may not have violated the letter of the law in refusing to moderate their hate-filled community, they have created an veermt that revels in violating its spirit. let's talk...

Up. they are now at 21 confirmed dead in el paso, texas. that brings the total number killed in the two mass shootings in this country over the weekend to 30 now, 30 people killed in two separate shootings in the united states over this weekend. i want to bring in nbc's ben collins now, msnbc terrorism analyst evan coleman, senior partner at flash point also with me. ben, let me start with you. as pete just mentioned there, this network provider, cloud fair, cutting off services to 8chan. is that going to have any sort of measurable impact? >> cloud flair would like you to believe that it is n...

Emboldened. >> so 8 chan which is this website that has served as the host for so many of these hateful terroristic thoughts, cloud fair which is the security apparatus that was hosting the site, they stopped working for 8chan this morning. is that enough? >> well, it's a start. so let's keep in mind what 8chan is. we often use services like facebook and twitter and youtube. 8chan is a cesspool for the worst elements in our society to talk about things like child pornography and violent extremism and the ideology around it. but there's a whole value chain that makes services like 8chan work. s...