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It's one thing to cook up a propaganda drug deal to trick others. it's another thing to trick yourself. since john bolton so memorably brought that up, i know you heard this before, never get high on your own supply. maybe they were so high on cloud strike and burisma they started believing it and it clouded their judgment. that is not a legal defense. the goal of propaganda is to hurt your opponents regardless of the truth for all the talk of the 2016 servers, the evidence shows trump wanted to run basically the same play that worked in 2016. hillary clinton was never actually indicted, let a...

Since then, theories that ukraine hacked into dnc servers and forensic examination of the service by cloud strike might be in ukraine's hands, all disproven. still unproven is the role of former dnc staffer alexandra chalupa. >> a contractor for the democratic national committee who worked with ukrainian officials to collect dirt on the trump campaign. >> in 2016, children's book contacted the fbi, claiming she had been hacked in a state-spond cyber attack while working at the dnc. agents took forensic images of her laptop and cell phone. senate republicans grassley and ron johnson wrote the f...

>> you have everything to do with it, except the president doesn't believe that. we'll get to that in the second. the server, where's the server? there never was a server. the dnc boous a clouused a clou system. the cloudstrike is based in california. one of the co-founders was born in russia, not ukraine, and he moved to the u.s. as a teen-ager. conspiracy theory number two, this idea that as vice president joe biden bribed ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was pursuing an investigation of his son by withholding aid money, basically what the president just did. but what hunter biden did, y...

And i'm not putting you on. i'm not kidding. i don't buy the premise. >> but how can you say -- if you're concerned about corruption -- you're concerned about corruption in ukraine, i've been there. there is a lot of corruption. the only example of corruption in the ukraine the president can say is joe biden, the guy he happens to be running against? >> no, no. >> and this conspiracy theory about -- >> he talked about the 2016 campaign. >> right, conspiracy theory. the strike and the server being in ukraine. >> what pompeo talked about today that nothing that the president has done is outside ...

>> he talked about the 2016 campaign. >> conspiracy theory. the strike and the server being in ukraine. >> what pompeo talked about today that nothing that the president has done is outside -- >> but you haven't addressed what i just said which is he's talking about a conspiracy theory and joe biden. that's conspiracy. >> ernst & young says ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in world. >> yes. but you're saying joe biden and cloudstrike, that's ukraine? >> no earthy idea, and that's what this process is about. >> we do have a lot of earthy idea about who is corrupting ukraine. because...