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Robert mueller? >> there are -- look, there has been leaks there has been leaks going back to "the washington post" earlier in june. >> i'm asking you right now. >> i think someone mentioned it previously. people are respectful. he has been respectful of confidentiality. there has been leaks that i spent ten hours without a lawyer with -- in "the washington post" mentioning that with the fbi. someone was saying about papadopoulos has been cooperating since july. i've been cooperating since march. i mean, i want to get the truth out there. it's very clear that this is the main offenses were the...

And lawyers are not going to take a contingent fee case unless there is at least some reasonable prospect for their being compensated out of any settlement and judgment ordinarily. >> ordinarily, some do. what we are seeing today though is an explosion of pro se, filings by the person without a lawyer. that is what i was trying to address there. i do think access to justice in large part means access to a lawyer. lawyers make a difference. i believe that firmly. my grandpa showed me that to me. what a difference a lawyer can make in a life. >> judge, let me ask about another case involving the...

Many wonderful people on the rules committee trying to make our civil litigation system cheaper and faster because it takes too long for people to exercise their seventh amendment liberties, and i can tell you together with my colleagues when we found that the level of representation of inmates on death row was unacceptable in our circuit, a whole bunch of us -- i can't take too much credit -- tried to do something about it. i it tell you that when prisoners come to court pro se handwritten complaints, and i see something meritorious to them, i senator. >> can you describe your relationship wi...

Years, together with many wonderful people on the rules committee, trying to make our civil litigation system cheaper and faster, because it takes too long for people to exercise their seventh amendment liberties and i can tell you together with my colleagues, we found the level of representation of inmates on death row was unacceptable in our circuit, a whole bunch of us, i can't too much credit, tried to do something about it. i can tell you that when prisoners come to court pro se handwritten complaints and something that might be meritorious in them, a point re. >> can you describe your re...

Arrangement and lawyers aren't going to take a contingent fee case unless there is some reasonable prospect for their being compensated out of any settlement and judgment ordinarily. >> ordinarily. some do. what we're seeing today though, senator, is an explosion of pro se, that is filings by the person without a lawyer, and that's what i was trying to address there. i do think access to justice in large part means access to a lawyer. lawyers make a difference. i believe that firmly. my grandpa showed that to me. what a difference a lawyer can make in a life. >> judge, let me ask you about ano...