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End of the recession, no one knew it was a recession back then. we were feeling the pulse really across the country. one coast to another on the cnn express. so, you really, you know the politics and you know the country. the president is out there. what is the politics of what he's doing? >> yeah, and, of course, you said it, you know, it's buttoned up. he had congress pass the legislation. he sold it to congress. now he needs to sell it to the country, ali. the fact of the matter is, he barely got it through congress. >> right. >> a lot of promises were made to the democrats who had to take ...

He tried to negotiate a deal. it fell apart. but there's a chance some people think there could be some wigging room getting bob corker over. some people think it will never pan out, but that's where the game is still in play. a lot of moving pieces here, ali. >> i would say in 1,300 pages, i'm sure we can find some wiggle room in there. thank you for covering this so well, christine romans, my co-host on "your $$$$$," and jessica yellin, you can see her all over this network. all right, when we come back, tom foreman back on the cnn express, just making me jealous on that bus i used to call...

>> exactly. >> reporter: by tapping that knowledge, he's more than doubled his business almost every year since it started six years ago, creating 30 jobs, along with a reason, and a way, for that talent to stay. and you heard the mayor say there, they've just started this fight. this is a realization here. you talk to young people all over this town, they'll tell you this town is not there yet. they haven't really created that really strong core that will make younger people all want to stay here. >> yeah. >> reporter: and not run off to atlanta or nashville or new orleans, but they're starti...

Locking the doors to this hotel, so folks could not come inside the hotel. so, they were concerned, at least for a brief period of time, that this was going to get out of control, that people would start to storm the hotel, but in the end that did not happen. a few detentions, you could call them, ceremonial arrests, i would call them, for a few moments and the folks were released. but essentially there was a big, noisy protest. we don't see these a lot in washington these days, but -- especially around the issue of health care reform. this was definitely one of the larger health care protests...

More, a bigger part of the economy going forward, couldn't we? >> yeah, definitely. i think what we're seeing is this is the way that people are going to be working into the future. and just for the reason that you said. >> when we talk about freelan freelancers, we hear a lot of people describing themselves as contractors. when i went across the country on the cnn express, i heard a lot of small businesses saying if the obama health care plan forces me to get health care for my employees, i am switch to just using contractors. have these two terms become interchangeable? in other words, staff...