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Sources tell cnn michael cohen the president's former lawyer is willing to tell the special counsel that president trump is lying about a key meeting at the center of the russia probe. congressman eric swalwell, democrat, member of the intelligence committee, joins us now. this is a credibility contest, congressman. how does it size up in your estimation? >> good evening, chris. well, as far as michael cohen's credibility, rudy giuliani described him as a proven liar but all of his lies in the past were on behalf of donald trump. and also as a former prosecutor, i've proved many cases and it h...

States. he's also shopping for a get out of jail card. if this information is true and accurate, and if it can be nailed down in testimony by others, it's very, very significant because the president has denied any foreknowledge of this event, and this meeting goes to the question of intent to collude because, indeed, his son in that meeting made him -- said in a communication that he was willing to get information -- i love it, he said -- from the russians at this meeting. >> all right. so before we get into the implications too deeply, let's get into the balancing part of this. jimmy, what a...

Accuracy and reliability of the information that has been provided by mr. trump jr. and on his behalf. i should say that contacted by cnn one of cohen's attorneys, that is lanny davis. he declined to comment, and i know you're speaking to rudy giuliani, the president's attorney, and i'll leave that fons spore you. >> thank you for mentioning that. we have rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer was scheduled to be on the show tonight. he's in the green room. he's listening to the reporting. then he will get a full and complete opportunity to make his case to the audience. so in talking about thi...

President trump's former personal attorney, secretly recorded conversations between them and not just once, a source familiar telling cnn when informed of one of the tapes, trump said, quote, i can't believe michael would do this to me. trump's current attorney rudy giuliani tells cnn one of the conversations, which took place two months before the 2016 presidential election, in the then candidate trump's office, was about payments to former playboy model karen mcdougal who says she had an affair with trump in 2006, an affair trump denies. >> we saw each other frequently. >> dozens of times? >...

Only one made it to shore. the first emergency calls for the other came in at 7:09. >> we need a water rescue. it will be north of the showboat. it will be a duck that has capsized. >> if there's somebody out there with a video, please turn it in to our stone county sheriff's facebook page. >> reporter: the president of the duck boat company tells cnn it slould never happened. >> it was perfectly calm and we had a high-speed wind system that came out of nowhere. obviously we should. be out there in severe weather. we're absolutely devastated, and we couldn't feel -- we feel terrible. >> report...