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Like that satisfying are partlyjust the dynamics of the people in it. i mean, partly in that show, what makes it go is, you know, sarah koenig's relationship with him as she tries to figure him out. like, it's just very intense and very personal, and you really get to know him. and then you really are trying to answer a question, you're trying to solve a mystery, that keeps you going forward. and so, yeah, it feels good. and then as journalism, obviously, like, she's an incredible investigative reporter. in subsequent seasons, we tried to take on things that were very different from that — w...

You're trying to solve a mystery that keeps you going forward. and so, yeah, i think it's very like like it, it feels good. and then as journalism, obviously like she's an incredible investigative reporter in subsequent seasons, like we tried to take on things that were very different from that we had we lost all interest in murder mysteries and got the rest of the internet and the rest of podcasting. take that up. and you know, the season after it was on the us military and the season after that, we basically tried to diagnose what's wrong with the american court system and, you know, camped ...

Of the people in it. i mean, partly in that show, what makes it go is, you know, sarah koenig's relationship with him as she tries to figure him out. like, it's just very intense and very personal, and you really get to know him. and then you really are trying to answer a question, you're trying to solve a mystery, that keeps you going forward. and so, yeah, it feels good. and then as journalism, obviously like she's an incredible investigative reporter. in subsequent seasons, we tried to take on things that were very different from that — we had we lost all interest in murder mysteries and ...

>> we should remember two years from now, john boehner is not going to be interested in being the speaker and it's going to be passed on possibly to the david duke set. so they don't have too long to wait until -- >> before we finish this scalise, want to get to it later in the show. can she survivehe survive as a member of the republican leadership having hung out with david duke? >> he didn't hang out with david duke. i like to give the facts. scalise is a good guy. >> he's apologized for doing it. >> i know he apologized. i'd like too see what the facts are on this whole case. scalise will ...