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Look, he took input from a variety of his cabinet, very informed, thoughtful approach. it took weeks of ooh evaluating this. he put america first with respect to this decision. >> and climate change never came up in those meetings? >> i want to say this to you. he also emphasized in his speech thursday the importance of engagement. that's what's being missed in this. the president did not exit paris. he exited paris because it's a bad deal and we're going to continue engagement on co2 reduction, part of the ccc as you know. we led the world with respect to look at the decision made in paris, r...

World and future generations. >> >> every chicagoan and illins and who depends on lake michigan for a safe, clean drinking water is at risk. >> it's an extraordinary abdication of american leadership. he has made us an environmental pariah. a self-destructive move. >> was interesting about the comments is if you go back to when paris was entered into by the nations across the globe, there were environmental groups here criticizing the deal because i didn't hold china accountable. it did not hold india accountable. the largest polluters didn't have to take any steps until 2030. india in the agr...

Of the deal, we take ourselves away from the table as far as american leadership in the world. that's what they are saying. >> we don't lose our seat at the table. we are part of the climate action committee at the u.n. when you look at the situation with india and china and the rest, people are not recognizing, it's not about china or indiana. if you go back to 2016, there were environmental groups that said now that we have paris commits the precursor to us using the core system in the country to compel regulatory response by the epa to drive awy fossil fuel and coal while china and india co...

Of the deal, we take ourselves away from the table as far as american leadership in the world. that's what they are saying. >> we don't lose our seat at the table. we are part of the climate action committee at the u.n. when you look at the situation with india and china and the rest, people are not recognizing, it's not about china or indiana. if you go back to 2016, there were environmental groups that said now that we have paris commits the precursor to us using the core system in the country to compel regulatory response by the epa to drive awy fossil fuel and coal while china and india co...

>> neil: you think the rise we had in temperatures since then owes any connection to man? >> it may. i'm not a scientist. but the debate over the paris accord is not a debate over science. the debate over the paris accord is an economic debate. the president made clear we're far ahead of other countries in terms of co2 reduction. how can it be an effective deal if it lets china and india, two of the major polluters, keep increasing their pollution for another decade or two? that doesn't sound to me like a climate accord. it simply sounds like a transfer of wealth from the united states to othe...