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It's my first amendment right to walk around in the street with it. >> richard: apples and oranges. taking a knee before this controversy was a sign of reference. jesus took a knee in the garden of gethsemane. taking a knee. it's always been a sign of reverence. they are not putting a fist up. they are taking in knee when the pledge is happening. [all speaking] >> kimberly: that is not how you kneel in church. >> greg: kneel in front of the police station. >> richard: when the coaches talks, they take a knee so they can be respectful and listen. >> dana: we have to end it there. near reaction ...