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Emissions from coal plants? text "a" for yes and "b" for no or go to our blog. we'll bring you the results later. for more, here's maryann hit of the sierra club and also, john wood of coal blue. great to have both of you with us. john, you first. you support coal power? your reaction to the president's proposal of what he could be doing coming up with a new computer model to tell these coal-fired plants you got to fall within a in model on emissions. what about it? >> ed, thanks for the opportunity to be here. in terms of reacting to the president's proposal, it's not something we can do unti...

>> so you want the president to do this? it's something that he could do under the clean water act that goes back to 1970, but no president has done it? from what we're hearing, this would be the biggest slap on the coal industry that we've seen in a long time but maybe the country is awake to this now? jon, do you support a cap and trade on a state level which is being talked about? >> we looked at cap and trade before when it was going through congress. cap and trade can be used as a way to increase the technology development. it comes down to the details. let me be clear. what coalblue and ...

Spent in your state from outside your state and nobody knows who the heck is spending that money with messages that are just awful, that's a real challenge. yes, i think you can you can di on issues that are important. and there are a bunch of groups out there, and coal blue which supports coal-based energy, and we are looking for the kind of technologies that are going to be doing better in terms of emissions. >> but i would say that the groups in democratic counties would mask that. >> and you are absolutely right, you can do it, but you to do -- >> well, you were with it, and you could not ...