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Cocc co cocktail of all of the aircraft, and american aircraft, and syria aircraft, and gulf and arab a aircraft working in the area, and you have two sides, command and control entities, and right now they are not cooperatinging or coordinating with each other, and any time you have that much high performance aircraft in a confined area, you are going to have problems. now this drone thing today, not surprising that we haven t seen this before. but if you look at the drones, and where it went, this one particular drone where it went down north of aleppo inside of t turkey, it fits what the russians are doing. they are fighting in an area called idlib which is to the east of the area that nick was describing, the area near the coast, and it would make sense that the russians have drones up there, and i suspect that it flew north out of the command ....