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You have written a book called "the case for impeachment," i believe it's called. this is as close as it's gotten. it's not new information in that we knew from michael cohen's earlier testimony and the information against him that he said he was directed by individual one, but now the sdny seems to be saying they believe that to be the case. >> right. i mean, i think you see something very serious. the real question that comes out is what is the implication of the prosecution, the conviction of michael cohen for president trump? >> right, that's the question. >> during watergate the grand jur...

General harry litman, also joins us, and nick akerman is staying with us. nick was a former watergate prosecutor and is an msnbc legal analyst. thanks to all three of you, liz, let's start with you. you have written a book called "the case for impeachment," i believe it's called. this is as close as it's gotten. it's not new information in that we knew from michael cohen's earlier testimony and the information against him that he said he was directed by individual one, but now the sdny seems to be saying they believe that to be the case. >> right. i mean, i think you see something very serious...