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Kind of a shorthand for consumer laziness. it's right in the center of your existing field of vision, and we don't have to get you to look at anything new to accept that. i think that's the code underneath what we're seeing when we say, oh, something's marketable. you're already looking in that direction and we don't have to do anymore work. >> she's on mute. >> rena, i think you might be muted. we can't quite hear you. >> excuse me -- >> there you go. >> i think we're having a few more technical issues. let me bring it back to tarika. we'll iron out whatever is keeping us from hearing you. ta...

Mixes sports metaphors, he speaks positively of the angels, even though he's an a's fan. you might be off the show. rina, with regards to marketability, though, i feel like there's a kernel of something inside what stephen a. smith was saying that is worth unpacking. because we've seen this debate going around a lot in the last few years. whether it's players and they're marketable, movies and tv shows, whether they're marketable. it used to be questionable whether a tv show with a black star or a movie that was about the latin experience could be marketable around the world, whether a movie a...