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Good evening to both of you. thank you for coming on. bill, starting with you. you say rob porter is not just a political scandal but a national security scandal, too. how so? >> well, the staff secretary at the white house is, in many cases, the final valve through which any information flows to the president. and that includes top secret code word security at times. that is code word intelligence and other analysis in the federal government. so you have to have a top secret clearance in order to handle that information. and what we typically know about these interim clearances is that they a...

H white house trying to get past the rob porter scandal, but it's exposed some deep flaws in our national security. let's discuss now. cnn law enforcement analyst josh campbell, a former fbi supervisory special agent. and the director and ceo of the miller center for public affairs at the university of virginia. good evening to both of you. thank you for coming on. bill, starting with you. you say rob porter is not just a political scandal but a national security scandal too. how so? >> well, the staff secretary at the white house is, in many cases, the final valve through which any informat...