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Whether he did it. he did it. he abused the power and attempted to shakedown ukraine for personal political gain in the form of the assistance and in the 2020 election, and every witness who has come forward has corroborated that. if we needed them to, given the fact that the president's own words in that telephone call as affirmed by nick mulvaney at a later press conference and now frankly by mr. holmes and overhearing the conversation with mr. sondland and president trump, and if there were not even the other elements of guilt present, and there are, and the fact that they transferred the t...

>> republicans, and congressman you have laid out what you believe is your best argument here from the democratic perspective. republicans in the memo that we've obtained this morning have laid out their best arguments and one of them includes a discussion of the president's mindset, that you have to look at donald trump's state of mind during this call and as it relates to ukrainian military aid to assess whether he did anything wrong. do you think that's a fair point on the part of your republican colleagues? >> i think consciousness of guilt is an element in any effort to prove guilt in a c...

Significant? >> well, i think what the house wants is to fill in some of these gaps. we know thattizenburg is the one who put the read out into the code word server. why did he do that? based on whose concerns? what did he think about this? what was his justification for putting it in the code word server that it's clearly not classifiable at that level. i think he's important to put color and details into this. obviously we have the main outlines of what happened here because we're talking about them. it's just really a matter of filling in the gaps. he's an important witness. is he critical?...

Monday. what does congress need to hear from him? >> let's see if he shows up. what congress needs to hear is what he did with these concerns. typically after a head of state phone call, the director, in this case lieutenant colonel vindman, would do two things. he would review the written draft readout from the situation room but concurrently he would also give a verbal readout of the call to people who had a need to know what happened. that would be people at the state department, defense department, pentagon, department of justice in this case so that people could follow up on the call. fro...

Are beyond what the rest of the folks need to follow. so this could be a real concern. not only for the witness himself. but also for the trump administration. if it is established that an order was given to essentially cover up this activity. >> melissa, one of our legal experts, joyce vance says eisenberg needed to clear things up when it came to his decision to move the call transcript in to a secret system. take a listen. >> placing this nem-con on the code word server which is not the ordinary way which these memos were stored looks very bad, and it is there for one of two reason, either ...