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were part of his official responsibilities. i worked for the u.s. government for 15 years. and, the first thing that he too knows ethics trainings was, you don't do politics while you are on the u.s. government clock. mr. meadows was a member of congress, he had a staff, he was chief of staff, he understands that. it seems that he is doing the same thing here that he tried to do with the january 6th select committee, which is to try to run out the clock, and hope that he gets a better outcome. >> so let me pick up on that point, christopher, that you just heard. tell me what you know about mark meadows the man. what was he like in congress? how does he compare to other chiefs of staff like nick mulvaney, john kelly? >> well you know, it was mission impossible, really, for any of donald trump's chiefs, because trump never had any

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intention of empowering a white house chief who could tell him what he didn't want to hear. but having said that, mulvaney really was the chief of staff that trump was constantly looking for, and finally found. he was the ultimate sycophant, and he wasn't just a yes man to trump. we are, leahy was a yes man to almost everyone he came across. i mean in my book, the fight of his life, inside joe biden's white house, i reported that even as he was enabling donald trump's efforts to stay in power, he was giving a kind of wink and a nod, he was announcing his deputy chief, chris wood al, to go ahead with a stealth transition to joe biden. so, this didn't make any sense. but it was just the way that mark meadows -- . so i think he is probably being too clever by a half here, in his maneuvering with the feds, versus the state. and i think there's a very real prospect, that whatever happens in the federal cases, that marc mulvaney could become the second white house chief of staff, after nixon's h are holdman, to end up behind bars. >> jessica, according to the

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SPLC releases latest data on hate, includes 2 SC parent's groups

Southern Poverty Law Center names Moms For Liberty and South Carolina Parents Involved in Education as antigovernment extremist groups based on their actions.

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SPLC releases latest data on hate, includes 2 SC parent's groups

Southern Poverty Law Center names Moms For Liberty and South Carolina Parents Involved in Education as antigovernment extremist groups based on their actions.

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American Voices With Alicia Menendez

double digits after him. as of now, and yes we are always out, it looks like it could once again be trump versus biden. only this time trump is federally indited, we know what that looks like, how trump responds when he feels cornered. the conspiracy theories, grievances, and threats, policy? not really his thing. one of the many flaws arrivals from the gop nominees highlighted about trump just today. >> republicans should listen to what he says. he is a petulant child when somebody disagrees with him. whether it's bill barr, john kelly, or general mattis. whether it is nick mulvaney, or general milley. if you disagree with donald trump, the petulant child comes out and he calls you names. >> i don't think that is what the constitution intends. giving the president the pardon power. but most importantly, it would be inappropriate, although i

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Deadline White House

would be smart for the candidates to avoid hitting trump too hard at first but to be sure to leave room open to hit him later. that's the smart play, said nick mulvaney. the politics of this depends on whether the feds have more on trump than what the indictment indicates. he goes on to say, put another way, do we really want to throw an ex-president in jail for a technical violation of the law? if they have evidence that, say, he gave stuff to the saudis or even a foreign operative had access, that might cause even some hard core maga people to stop and say, hang on, that's a problem. i could talk about this paragraph all day. one, the fact that he is trying to say, this is just a technicality, what he did is graver than a legal technicality. >> yes. we were talking before about the fact that we haven't done a great job of explaining what the espionage act is about and why being careless and reckless with

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All In With Chris Hayes

the far-right house freedom caucus, then he quits work for trump in 2020, he was the highest ranking republican on the powerful house oversight committee. so, while meadows politics may be controversial, he was generally considered to be, well liked representative. which is what makes it so odd that he abruptly left congress to serve as trump's fourth chief of staff in three years. even after he saw those who came before him, former rnc chair, reince priebus, -- hope former homeland security secretary, john kelly. fellow former republican congressman, nick mulvaney, mulvaney, all basically chewed up and spit out by trump during his tumultuous tenure as president. serving as donald trump's chief of staff, a person upset simply responsible for reigning in the ex presidents's worst impulses sounds, of course, like a genuine nightmare assignment. but here's the thing about meadows, and i'm not sure anyone quite expected this when he decided to take the job, at least the people close him or the people that serve in his

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well liked representative. which is what makes it so odd that he abruptly left congress to serve as trump's fourth chief of staff in three years. even after he saw those who came before him, former rnc chair, reince priebus, -- hope former homeland security secretary, john kelly. fellow former republican congressman, nick mulvaney, mulvaney, all basically chewed up and spit out by trump during his tumultuous tenure as president. serving as donald trump's chief of staff, a person upset simply responsible for reigning in the ex presidents's worst impulses sounds, of course, like a genuine nightmare assignment. but here's the thing about meadows, and i'm not sure anyone quite expected this when he decided to take the job, at least the people close him or the people that serve in his congress. meadows succeeded where his predecessors had failed, precisely because he didn't try to remain in the worst impulses. he enabled those impulses of donald trump instead. as the report makes clear time

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The Lead With Jake Tapper

>> look, i just think if you're a 40-year-old, 50-year-old adult, you're responsible for your own conduct. jake, if i told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it? >> nobody is saying they shouldn't be charged. >> they're being held accountable, as they should be, and so should donald trump. and i see that a lot of republicans are saying, i think mick mulvaney was saying this earlier, yes, of course, what he did was terrible, but he didn't actually commit a crime. and yet we have four crimes that are clearly laid out by the committee and i don't understand how under any circumstance anyone could think that a crime wasn't committed. you can make an argument it might be hard to prove it in a court of law. >> that was so interesting today, the committee talking about insurrection. they didn't say specifically that he led the insurrection, they said that he gave comfort, which is article 14, section 3 of the constitution. >> not that you read it.

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very credible. i would have to say if they asked me under oath was that consistent with what i saw of donald trump, yes, it is. but it's a far reach from i really hate to lose and i'll do anything to win to proving that there were crimes committed. that's why i think that type of person, by the way, would be very likely, perhaps, to obstruct justice, to interfere with an investigation into what happened. so does it help sort of set the environment and establish the atmosphere in which this was going on, yes. but, again, to prove a crime, you've got to have a lot more than what hope hicks just gave the committee today. >> mick mulvaney, thank you so much. coming up, the justice department is not the only thing on the minds of trump's legal team. why they may have georgia on their minds as well. in breaking news, the supreme court just now weighed in on the trump-era title 42 border policy set to expire in a few days. stay with us. our dell technologies advisors can provide you with t the tools and expertise you need to bring out the i innovator

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