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It's different what he's doing. >> john mccain in 2008 in the campaign responding to that woman in the crowd about birthribirt birtherism correcting the woman rather than the president of the united states not correcting the crowd last night. thanks to all. coming up, the cohen files. hundreds of unredacted documents tied to hush payments made by donald trump's ex-lawyer released moments ago. the details coming up next. stay with us on andrea mitchell live from aspen, colorado, only on msnbc. ado, only on msnbc some reach a level of top safety pick. but only a select few of the very safest v...

To show his cards in some form. deputy attorney general who first appointed mueller and has been on his way out is planning to stay on at the justice department a little bit longer. to break down what we learned is white reporter from nbc. and former chief spokesperson under attorney general eric holder. you've been reporting on this stufr, particularly around the inauguration. what have we learned from these cohen files? >> what we learned is cohen had a very extensive foreign lobbying operation going that mueller was aware of it and looking into it much earlier than we've previously known. w...

You've been reporting on this stufr, particularly around the inauguration. what have we learned from these cohen files? >> what we learned is cohen had a very extensive foreign lobbying operation going that mueller was aware of it and looking into it much earlier than we've previously known. we learned that columbus nova, which is the american linked form ended up paying cohen north of $500,000. it was part of a million dollar contract signed with cohen. within ten days of trump's inauguration. another in the that's important to remember is not only did he attend trump's inauguration but he at...

Insider, rudy giuliani, when asked about debating avenatti, features prominently in your program this weekend, he said, no, i won't. i don't get involved with pimps, which is interesting considering he's repping trump. >> i would say if you were to watch the special hour-long circus, you would find a lot of michael avenatti, some rudy giuliani, some comments in the vein of these comments and you will learn on the basis of the kinds of responses to michael avenatti has to rudy giuliani, they're suggestive of how he's to respond to these rather -- >> my only comment is he don't know what kind of...

Payments. more of a michael cohen problem. >> shepard: detractors have said that could be that the special prosecutor or the special counsel in this case is trying to protect parts of the investigation from maybe the disbanding of a special counsel by putting off parts of this investigation to other entities, including the southern district of new york. >> right. it is possible that that is true. >> shepard: we just don't know. >> we don't know. southern district may be told hey, guys, if you find out a little bit of anything about anything that's going on with cohen files, these records or wh...