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Evidence that at times in a places, russian soldiers have simply given up, they simply walked away from the fight. that they, in some cases, sabotage their own vehicle so that they would run out of fuel and not be able to replace that fuel. we know that they have had morale and cohesion problems. born, we think, largely from the fact it is a conscript force. these are largely draft these, young man who had no idea that they would be invading another country. they thought they would be going on a training exercise. they were not fully prepared and ready for actual combat. we know they're having...

Refusing orders, so might be sabotaging their own equipment. there was one report of shootings on their own aircraft. my question to you, do you understand where the dynamic is going on amongst russian forces? does the pentagon believe this is happening on a wide scale, or is this something that is largely very specific and isolated? >> i cannot confirm every item in that british report about shooting down aircraft and everything they put in their. that said, ali, we have seen poor unit coalition, morale, poor leadership. we have plenty of anecdotal evidence that at times in a places, russian ...