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Gutierrez-reed, where were she? the district attorney says we may never know how a live round got to a set. i want to play part of my interview from last summer. take a listen. >> i pulled the hammer all the way back without locking it, and the gun went off. i've never played with a gun. i never pointed a gun at somebody and clicked it. in my life. you could find people that would testify to that effect. >> their office believes, and reasons why they are charging alec baldwin, that he pulled that trigger. alec baldwin maintains he did not, and they aren't as for alec baldwin's role as a produc...

So she did tell josh when josh asked her, i saw you asking her that live. they don't know how that live round got there but the other thing, jennifer, that she was very clear with in speaking with josh as she says, how do i know that alec baldwin pulled the trigger? because that is the evidence that was in the fbi report, that is what we were waiting for and that's clearly what it said. she also made the point that i thought was interesting that it wasn't just about him and his role as an actor but that as a producer on the film, it was also his duty to keep the set safe. what does that mean i...

Footage from the rehearsal, hi finger is through the trigger guard breaking the frame of his finger. if his finger was in the trigger gart -- if it's not in there, you pull the if you then press the hammer, it falls. however, if your finger is on the trigger, and you pull the hammer back, the gun will also fire. i think that's why he was saying he didn't fire it, but his finger was on constant pressure. >> so both things can be true, that he didn't consciously pull a trigger and then pull the hammer back and then, of course the gun fired. >> right, but the d.a. can say you pulled the trigger, ...

Know that, according to alec, he did not have anything to do with hiring hannah gutierrez-reed or other individuals. there were other producers who were enlisted to do so, so alec has maintained this was just a tragic accident. >> steve, let me come back to you. i understand you may be able to show us what either actually happened or what should have happened once they gun was handed over to alec baldwin. >> and alec knows that dave halls is not a firearms expert. his message "cold gun" shouldn't have any more import than if the caterer said it. he knew who 9 armorer was. can you have the armo...

For congress to raise the nation's debt limit, it's something that democrats and republicans have worked together to do for the last 80 years. but this time, house republicans say they have one condition. they say if they agree to raise the debt limit, they want the president to agree to spending cuts. the white house calling that a nonstarter, saying they will not negotiate with republicans on this. meanwhile, the treasury secretary's warning of dire consequences if congress does not act in the coming months, saying that social security checks could be cut for seniors. troops could go unpaid....