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To find in the enquiry that a large proportion of deaths resulted from infections in care homes and hospitals, not, for example, amongst young people. so, it might well be that actually, a policy of focused protection might have worked much more successfully without the huge collateral costs of the restrictions that we took, but that remains to be seen. but many of the scientists i speak to say that the delay to the second lockdown, when the prime minister was worried about people like you and your covid recovery group objecting, cost — they claim — tens of thousands of lives, while there ...

In care homes? that it's desirable to prevent you sitting on a park bench or going for a walk with a coffee? or, indeed, leaving your house for exercise more than once ina day? i really don't think anyone thinks these things are desirable and if you — i think we are going to find in the enquiry that a large proportion of deaths resulted from infections in care homes and hospitals, not, for example, amongst young people. so, it might well be that actually, a policy of focused protection might have worked much more successfully without the huge collateral costs of the restrictions that we took...

You sitting on a park bench for going for a walk with a coffee? or indeed leaving your house for exercise more than once in a day? i really don't think anyone thinks these things are desirable. and i think we are going to find an enquiry that a large proportion of deaths resulted from infections in care homes and hospitals, not, for example, among young people. so, it might well be that actually a policy of focused protection might have worked much more successfully without the huge collateral costs of the restrictions that we took. but that remains to be seen. many of the scientists i speak t...

But who really thinks that it is desirable to prevent businesses operating? that it is desirable to prevent people visiting theirfamily in care homes? that it is desirable to prevent you sitting on a park bench or going for a walk with a coffee? or indeed leaving your house for exercise more than once in a day? i really don't think anyone thinks these things are desirable. and i think we are going to find in the enquiry that a large proportion of deaths resulted from infections in care homes and hospitals, not, for example, among young people. so, it might well be that actually a policy of foc...

Off the coast of nova scotia in 1998, the search, recovery and vapgs took four years and cost $39 million. but what of the collateral costs of missteps and mismanagement of the investigation? >> frankly, the malaysian government has not handled this at all well, and that's clearly cost time and resources. >> that it has. that was joe johns reporting. i want to bring in cnn's brian todd right now. you've been doing a lot of reporting on this bluefin-21. i guess the more complicated the technology, the more expensive it is to run it, right? >> it certainly is, carol. these are not cheap machines...