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>> and losing perhaps. >> perhaps. >> i think -- i mean i think if she runs, she is the front-runner. i think there is early prefatigue setting in. this headache factor where if she starts behaving politically, there is an immediate danger. an antiestablishment candidate can come in and do what obama did four years ago. >> there is probably some question as to whether she hasn't started already. >> i think everybody thinks she has started and she has to say no at this point for people to believe otherwise. but she is, you know, she begins this cycle in even better shape than she began the cycl...

I think she may decide she doesn't want to spend the rest of her professional life doing this thing. >> and losing perhaps. >> perhaps. >> i think -- i mean i think if she runs, she is the front-runner. i think there is early prefatigue setting in. this headache factor where if she starts behaving politically, there is an immediate danger. >> there is probably some question as to whether she hasn't started already. >> i think everybody thinks she has started and she has to say no at this point for people to believe otherwise. but she is, you know, she begins this cycle in even better shape tha...

Clinton looked like the inevitable nominee. if you go back to this time in 2005 specifically. let's bring in our gaggle. chicago tribute columnist clarence page. republican ad maker kim al phono. and "the washington post" chief correspondent dan balls, author of author of "collision 2012" that i spent most of my flight back to d.c. reading. nice to see you again in person. i want to put up some remarks that were rid written by mauree dowd on this topic. she said, they see the first woman president as the natural successor to the first black president. in other ways, hillary is not just a natur...

After millions of dollars and thousands of hours of analysis, there were plenty of memorable moments, the 2012 race changed very little. in his book "collision 2012" dan balls writes about a battle between two polarized electorates. one that brought president obama to power in 2008 and the one that brought sweeping republican gains two years later. america seems to be left with the status quo. the gop kept control of the house. the division between the parties is as sharp as ever. that doesn't mean it wasn't worth the ride. we are treated to spicy anecdote like the empty chair in tampa. balls ...

Set of an obama team ready to engage in hostilities. case and point, jim messina said my favorite philosopher is mike tyson. he said everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. my job is to punch them in the face. it was fought out in small ways. if 2008 was inspiring, 2012 was negative and nasty. joining us is dan balls, author of "collision 2012." dan, thanks so much for joining the program and congrats on the book. >> thank you. glad to be here. >> we are happy to have you. the future of elections in america, after 2012, given the prolonged and insane nature, what do you think eac...