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Those hacked e-mails during the presidential campaign. here is roger stone speaking of michael caputo's radio show yesterday. >> anybody who has followed jerry corsi's interviews and his own podcasts over the last couple of weeks realizes that he's been under relentless pressure, evidently, to say what the special counsel wants him to say. he told nbc news. my crime is i didn't tell them what they wanted to hear. this idea that jerry corsi could implicate me, there's simply no evidence whatsoever. >> very happy to have alli joining us at the table after a long stint in florida. clint, let me t...

Where the crime is yet. one possible crime is that if this is being done by people overseas to provide a benefit for the campaign, it would be, in essence, an illegal campaign contribution. it is also possible that there is some sort of possession of stolen property theory that the government could be working on. it is also possible that there are obstructive crimes. we've seen reporting that, you know, stone may have been in touch with credico and other people trying to influence what they would say to the prosecutors so you may have, unrelated to the collusion angle, you may have obstruction...

Security clearance. do other msnbc people have security clearances? how did somebody limited intellectually get to be the cia director in the first place. no one on the left tried to explain those things. they started yelling about how brennan's rights were violated. >> he know the russian collusion angle. that's what trump is trying to silence. >> nixonian type practices of trying to silence anyone who is criticizing this president. >> the larger implication is the jeopardy to our first amendment rights and others. >> hear that? the first amendment. you don't have freedom of speech unless you...

University professor and msnbc contributor. let me start with you, frank figliuzzi. one former very senior intelligence official said to me, this is the closest we've come to being straight-up unamerican this this presidency. >> so, for those americans who think, hey, this is some inside the beltway politics that doesn't affect anyone without a clearance, let me tell you why you're wrong. this strikes at the heart of free speech in our society. now, there are those who are going to say john brennan is free to speak however he wants, just to do so without a clearance. but what we're experiencin...

A secret investigation. we really don't know what mueller has. we know that he's doing an obstruction report, which is allegedly going to implicate the president. we know he is still investigating the collusion angle. i think what's going to matter here is when he finds the trump campaign did collude with the russians or didn't collude with the russians. every time mueller drops something, it seems to dominate the news coverage because no one saw it coming. he's already indicted the former campaign chairman, his deputy, the president's lawyer is now in the special counsel's crosshairs in the d...