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Particular episode and it may have historic effects. we'll have to wait and see. if he lays out a pattern of conduct which shows that the president and his team were trying very hard to shut down the flynn investigation, that is going to give great weight to the whole question of obstruction. we're now hearing the democrats like mark warner saying we don't see evidence of collusion, we don't see any smoking gun yet on the collusion question, but the obstruction of justice may turn out to be a more serious problem for the administration than the collusion issue. >> jim, as has been said by a nu...

There could be illegal collusion between the trump campaign and russian spies as it relates to russia's interference with our election with 17 different intelligence agencies have concluded occurred because russia decided that they wanted to intervene to help donald trump, so there's the collusion issue, but there are also issues concerning possible obstruction of justice, abuse of presidential power and authority in terms of these conversations that he was having with jim comey, possibly asking comey to publicly exonerate the president of the united states to dismiss or watch over the investi...

The bureau. >> eric: john brennan threading the needle carefully there. he said russia was aggressive in the election interference but when it comes to the potential gaition of collusion with the trump campaign and the russians he wasn't able to pin it down. indicating that the russians tried to reach out. perhaps tried to influence u.s. persons, as he said the allegation one of those u.s. persons was former general mike flynn. he denied any wrongdoing. but there is adam schiff. let's listen to what he has to say. >> are you aware of any efforts the president has made to enlist the support of ...

The bureau. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> mr. schiff, five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. wanted to follow up on a comment that i made in the opening statement. and that is, with respect to a number of allegations that have been made recently that the president or his aides may have sought to enlist the help of members of the ic or director comey himself to drop the flynn investigation. have any members of the ic shared with you their concerns that the presidentas attempting tenst the help of people within the intelligee community to drop the flynn investigation? >> no, sir. >> are you ...

>> thank you, mr. chairman. >> time has expired. mr. schiff, five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i wanted to follow up on a comment that i made in the opening statement, and that is with respect to a number of the allegations that have been made recently, that the president or his aides may have sought to enlist the help of members of the ic or director comey himself to drop the flynn investigation, have any members of the ic shared with you their concerns that the president was attempting to enlist the help of people within the intelligence community to drop the flynn investigation? >> ...