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It seems like mueller is sending a very strong signal that lying to congress is as serious a crime as lying to the fbi. >> lying to congress is lying to the american people, right? these are our elected officials, and what mueller is doing, it's a secondary purpose to message. it's not his primary focus. but you better believe that he knows what's happening in january with the house and he is letting them know that i am catching liars. this house has been lied to. but i am with matt on strategy. i believe that what we're seeing and what we're going to see very, very soon. this asking for the o...

President trump asked about manafort, says he doesn't see a problem as long as he tells the truth. do you buy that confidence? >> i don't. i think manafort's as dangerous for the president as is his white house counsel, mcgahn. they are both right with them in terms of the collusion issues. they're both well placed to hear his musings. his thoughts about what's going on? that's what's really dangerous for the president is manafort was there during the campaign, any offer of any information he would have discussed with him. he's in a position to know. that's why it's so dangerous for him. >> a ...

Docket judge. they are very fast. he does not tolerae any delays. for him to grant this sort of delay pretty much on the eve of the trial indicates that he must have found some compelling reasons, such as there's a lot of new evidence. he wants to make sure that he protects his verdict. if there's a guilty plea, he doesn't want some apeissue they didn't have enough time to prepare. >> i'm reading about this and reporting it out that the prosecutors going into the manafort trial explicitly said they don't intend to submit evidence relating to russia, the russia investigation. based on what you ...

You look at narrowly with regard to the russian venture here, or do you look it as is donald trump a crook? >> well, the scope of the investigation is fairly broad. it does center mostly around the collusion issues but also on masking, for example, the leaks. so there's four different prongs. my sense, though, is that robert mueller's investigation is number one on a faster pace, and number two, broader than even the house investigation at least. and this is a very important and interesting development because we do know the bank has been a lender for donald trump over the years on different p...