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Been in politics before. it certainly doesn't show collusion. you know, there is no evidence so far well over a year of an investigation that shows any collusion whatsoever. and that's the point. listen, there is a special counsel put in place yet no one can say what specific statute has been breached. you know, i don't know of a collusion statute. what statute has been breached that this investigation is predicated upon? >> well, with all due respect, there have been two guilty pleas, lying to the fbi, both times about conversations with russians. and then two indictments for money laundering...

Gregg jarrett said that is so far from the truth. and geraldo rich vera, you called it preposterous. >> it is preposterous. you have to be at war with the russians in order for treason to kick in. war against the united states, aiding and comforting the enemy. we are not at war. it's so stupid for senator tim kaine and others to say it. it's just not. they also say collusion. there is no collusion statute except an antitrust. there's one statute that says you can't conspire to disrupt a government function which would be and election. that involves taking information from a russian lawyer. it ...

Far from the truth.. and geraldo rivera, you called it preposterous. >> it is preposterous. you have to be at war with the russians in order for treason to kick in. war against the united states, aiding and comforting the enemy. we are not at war. it's so stupid for senatorst tim kaine and others to say it. it's just not. they also say collusion. there is no collusion statute except an antitrust. there's one statute that says you can't conspire to disrupt a government function which would be an election. this involves taking informatios from a russian lawyer. that's not deceit and dishonesty. ...

That, jeffrey. we can talk about that but i am focused on the legal ramifications, the legal essence of the collusion statute in dealing with that. >> joe: there's a big difference between clumsy inclusion. he shouldn't have taken this meeting. it was politically naive. donald trump, jr. is a businessman, not a competition. let's look at this from a macro level. june 9, 2016, donald trump meets with a russian lawyer who gives them no information on hillary clinton. bait and switch. the only other counts we have now is mike flynn meeting with kislyak, the russian ambassador, and jeff sessions m...

>> if there's investigation you're looking at what law may have been violated here. and again the meeting and what took place at the meeting, based on the information you just state is not a violation of any law, statute or code. i would say the vast moert of lawyers you have interviewed have said those meetings would not have been a violation of the law. when you talk about russia collusion, colluding to do what? everyone is acting as if there's this massive collusion statute, the fact is there is no collusion statute. >> what is the legal statute that has been violated here or alleged to be ...