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To him. he had a good reputation. his reputation is gone. and i don't understand it at all. he's got some kind of an agenda that has required him to become, basically, donald trump's roy cohn, donald trump's lackey, donald trump's consigliere. and all of that collusion talk on the day that he made his -- released the report, that's not legal terminology. his refusal to accept the conditions that jerry nadler set up for him to testify before the judiciary committee was ridiculous. the attorney general does not set the guidelines. he accepts and attends and testifies and all of this, it's just a...

If there's information that implicates the president, we have a national security issue. so, you know, we need some kind of heads up. just for the sake of protecting our interests, if we can. remember what we've always said about the president and his feelings toward flynn. that still remains. if you think, oh, that sounds bad, or not the way the president's lawyer should be speaking, he does sound like a mob boss. that kind of behavior, that is all over the mueller report. volume ii covers a dozen instances of possible obstruction by the president. it is not just that. all the no collusion ta...

If you know you did not collude in your accused of collusion, what is your natural response? "no collusion! i didn't do it. it's nonsense, it's a witch hunt." that's a innocent people do react. i think the president, frankly, has handled it as well as in a weekend when you have an independent special counsel investigating you. bob mueller will have that final word. and donald trump will be able to depend on whatever word it is, react to it, and hopefully put a stake in all this collusion talk. which is just corrosive for the nation for two years. >> harris: it'll be interesting to see through ...