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Without the cooperation of the iraqi people, figuring out who the controlling families were around they. working hand in hand, day after day, it was a lot of flat foot work and we were able to collect the whole set. each raid, each person we got led to somebody else. >> mike: how many dead ends did you hit? >> you always have a lot of dead ends, but you get nothing if you do nothing. and one of them might be the one and that proved to be the case on december 13th of 2003. >> mike: colonel, tell me, in those hours just before you finally found him and captured him, tell me how that came about a...

Grenade, a vest or was within reach of a gun. this is a silly argument, it was usama bin laden. they went in there and did the right thing and americans ought to stand by them and just knock off this nonsense about second guessing them. >> mike: i couldn't agree more. [applause] >> i think maybe that's one of the best ways i've heard it said and say thanks on behalf of the american people to those who participated in this, but one of the reasons it was successful because people like you pioneered the techniques. selection process and general boykin your extraordinary career should be admired b...

John. and two additional teams were brought up, some air assets and all of this planning took place not in sophistication pan technical means, but on a piece of butcher paper with magic marker pen drawn out and we'd worked together on so many raids. eight o'clock everything was set. a giant cordon around so that saddam could not escape. two farms were seized. what we think is two guys tried to flee and put saddam in his hiding place, and then after a time, he was brought along for the raid and he pointed to the location, it was a foot path, got down in the hole, saddam was at that location and...

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