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Syrian air defenses would have to be part of the calculus in terms of how the attack would be structured, what the first targets would be and what the overexpectations could be for what could be hit effectively. joining us now for more on that and the rest of this news is colonel jack jacobs, msnbc military analyst, medal of honor recipient. colonel jack, it's a pleasure to have you with us. thanks for being with us tonight. let me ask you about the air defense force factor. how serious are syrian air defenses and how much would that have to factor in to planning for this strike tonight? >> we...

That -- that announcement that says counterstrikes sounds less like air defenses. a counterstrike usually means a strike on the enemy's positions. now, it would be extremely difficult for them to strike our ships. they're very heavily protected. but what they could do is fly in zones where we have american troops or american allies like the kurds. that's entirely possible. but it sounds more like bluster. it's very, very difficult to shoot down an incoming missile, rachel. >> colonel jack, we had an initial report very quickly after the president's remarks concluded, a report from reuters, whi...

Target. get otherwise shot down. get jammed. so on. we use lots more weapons than we need. i think the message has been delivered clearly. >> we'll see if president bashar al assad hears that message going forward. colonel jack jacobs stick around. ambassador michael mcfall, thank you for joining us. still ahead, life to tehran to get the reaction from there. you are watching msnbc, u.s., british, french strikes against syria.

But the timing is clearly a coincidence given what's been emanating in the domestic front. but i think our government has had a hard time getting our allies on board. that's taken some time. i think also that there's been a great deal of discussion inside the white house and between the white house and the defense department about whether or not there ought to be retaliation and punishment and what form it should take and that's taken time to. at the end of the day i'm not a fanz fachb sing fan of single factor analysis, all of these are important and you can't discount the wag the dog factor ...

The third way to look at it, maybe trump is talking about something strategic. in fact, we are not going to rely just on the military power as we have for a long, long time. that we are going to use, diplomatic, economic in trumts as we -- instruments as well. assad has by and large won that, that, won that civil war. and the use of chemical weapons doesn't make any sense. the likelihood is he is not going to use them again in any case. >> colonel jack jacobs. stick around. i want to bring in, ambassador michael mcfall, former ambassador to russia, mnbc, international affairs analyst. i want t...