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That the intelligence community believes vladimir putin would want to put in power inside ukraine if he were able to accomplish his goals and remove zelenskyy from power? >> yeah, let's just first start that that's a big if. zelenskyy doesn't seem like he's going anywhere. even if kyiv falls zelenskyy still shares the support of the people and most importantly the military right now. >> right. >> i think it's pretty -- i'm sure that's what he wants to do and there's a minority party in russia that i'm sure he would try to install a puppet government. as jack pointed out he's going to face a st...

So in the last few days we have seen more and more reporting about low morale hampering russian forces in ukraine. it seems many of putin's troops simply had no idea what type of conflict they were being sent into, some combination of food shortages, inadequate supplies and then out and out lack of belief in the russian mission in ukraine has pushed a significant number of soldiers to lay down their weapons and give up. to discuss all of this and the latest developments in ukraine i am pleased to welcome colonel jack jacobs. colonel jack, that's let's first about this importance of having a mi...

Turning to and aleppo terror campaign, that before it's done, will destroy much of the country. i think down the line, we're gonna find nato, and is gonna find this unbearable to sit and watch this happen. >> unbearable, and you're saying that they've not had much success, at least at the speed that you would think vladimir putin might want. and colonel jack, president zelenskyy today said that we have now hardened the empty buildings in our capital of kyiv. if they want to take over kyiv, they're gonna have to carpet bomb the city to get it. what do you make of his comments? and is he right? ...

Those weapons. but if they use them against civilians inside ukraine, it will cause mass casualties. and i will think that will trigger, very likely, intervention on the ground and in the air by nato. >> okay, colonel jack jacobs, general barry mccaffrey, thank you both is always. appreciate your time. >> next, i wanna go inside a humanitarian crisis unfolding across ukraine, and show you what life is like for droves seeking shelter and bomb shelters. plus, nato allies pressing putin to end this war. he won't even consider a cease-fire, so what does progress look like, when forging diplomacy w...

One of the things that he is working on doing is completely sealing off the black sea approaches to ukraine, so that there can't be any evacuations, and there won't be any resupply and the south. and trying to do exactly the same thing and the east. i think he single-minded about achieving that. one of the reasons is, he is participating and unrelenting bombardment of the cities is that the russian army was unsuccessful in marching and on opposed. and so, he just unleashed the entire army on the entire country, and as general mccaffrey said, just blasted all the cities, until there is nothing ...