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Hearts we werent going to kill them. That was training. That kind of training helped prepare them for the treatment that they got. John mccain was tortured. What they did to him in the hanoi hilton and other Prisoner Of War Sites in North Vietnam was torture. Weve never done that kind of thing. Never condoned it. Some of our allies may have done it but we department. The bottom line is, when congress made these things illegal, theyre going to stay illegal until Congress Changes it. Neil when i hear the president said as he did today in this Press Conference and that he would defer i hope i hav...

Of retargets our border and tries to make sure that we're safe, lieutenant colonel tony shaffer back with us and colonel mcguinness. the wall is going up. it's a serious wall and its happening. the president is throwing a lot of ideas out there, border tax, a host of other ways to technically have the mexicans pay for it. we would kind of pay that, the american consumers would, but i guess the devil's in the details. what do you think of that, that this is the best way to go about it? >> well, the president just following through on a campaign promise. he's going to defend this country. obviou...

Everybody, neal, why you see a reverence for him, his integrity, his honesty. he tells it like it is. he was working with me on a project recently supporting the chairman of the joint chiefs. he was supposed to basically validate something we were doing. neil, he would show up to every meeting. he was there. you know, he would call me. i was by the capitol one day. i get this call. hey, tony, jim mattis. do you have ten minutes for me to give you guidance? oh, yeah. he's that kind of guy. he's very hands on. so what i'm trying to tell you, there's a reason why, neil, that this man is so well-r...

Terrorists, whether that's good or bad? >> i think the good cop bad cop discussion between president trump and the generals is very effective. america will not be weak and we won't let our enemies determine what we do to keep our country safe. on the other hand, to be that beacon of freedom and morality. we have to maintain the geneva convention, maintain that air of enlightenment and freedom and the muslims see us asseting the standard globally rather than going to their level. i believe one that believes that we should not do things that ineffective and also not surrender and do things that ...

Attache. good to see you, as well. all right, gentlemen, i wonder, colonel schaffer, does that tell you afghanistan is in far worse shape than you thought? >> afghanistan is not stable. afghanistan is a country in transition. and, i think we've recognized as the president's recognized that isis now is in ten provinces in afghanistan, 7 of which they control. and the taliban is resurging as much as we saw two weeks ago, the afghan forces were able to retake that city from the taliban with our help. the thing we have to continue to focus on is reconciliation between the taliban and the central a...