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Actually cause him to do these cheaper higher cost benefit operations like they did in paris. >> colonel sheaffer, take that question. >> they're going to do it no matter what. if they push them back or not, they're already expeditionary. that's something secretary carter said today. we have to take this from a multiregional perspective. this is going to attempt to work what they're calling strategic effects. we don't have a long-term political plan that these need to be tied into. and with all due respect to the congress, congress has not done its job to debate and come to terms with what aut...

>> colonel sheaffer, take that question. >> they're going to do it no matter what. if they push them back or not, they're already expeditionary. that's something secretary carter said today. we have to take this from a multiregional perspective. this is going to attempt to work what they're calling strategic effects. we don't have a long-term political plan that these need to be tied into. and with all due respect to the congress, congress has not done its job to debate and come to terms with what authorization a president has to conduct these operations. and more importantly, what that plan i...

Ross would write. you're only a hero because you were captured. but you don't say it because he is a hero. colonel sheaffer, obviously you're a veteran. what's your initial response? >> john mccain was actually on a fire team fighting a fire on n a forest instead of putting his life on the line, going into a zone getting shot down. when i first met him in '03 in afghanistan, we were still in an area of afghanistan drawing fire. by all measures i'm aware of, he's a hero. >> you're a helicopter pilot, you're in afghanistan and iraq, am i right? >> i was. >> how do you think the troops are going ...

Barrier. shortly after, he tweeted, captured or not, all our soldiers are heroes. i'm back with colonel sheaffer, amber smith, michael malice, joe yaen and cat and now we add joe devito. >> it's nice to be the tallest person on the panel. >> let's go to joanne because you'll be his future ex-wife. did he just destroy his chances? >> i think so. here's the thing, ir one thing i loved more than alimony payments is supporting our veterans. and he didn't. it's really awful. and coming off of obama who people said, i feel like he doesn't really support our military that much. he has never said anyt...