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That's the air power, the bombers and the cruise missiles and the ballistic missiles raining fire on to cities. when russia loses these capabilities, then it's going to come to the negotiating table. and i think it's a failed premise to think about the next day or two. we should think about how this war looks in six weeks or even in six months and recognize that it's going to be bigger, it's going to be a greater pressure from our populations in the u.s. and europe to support ukraine, and the decisions that we have to make then about a no-fly zone seem incalculably bigger than we should be doi...

Humanity, this is an unfortunate blood bath that is occurring and we've got to do everything we can do to punish putin but also to make sure that he understands that not with our tax dollars, not with our -- any mechanism we have, whether it's sanctions, anything short of the use of military force, we need to engage in, and so i fully support what the president said and is doing and i look forward to casting my vote for the bill tonight. >> so, congresswoman, you just said anything short of military action. i want to press you on that. colonel vindman has a lot more expertise in military equip...

Escalation. i saw u.s. senator sasse talking about the framework of what colonel vindman is saying if every proposal is pushed through the prism of a provocation then you tie your hands behind your back. if it is not you may start world war iii. is the ukrainian public, the civilian population, now so literally shell shocked, so literally traumatized that that debate falls on deaf ears? tell me if we have stopped tracking with what they call for and willing to do. >> so i think the debate that the ukrainian public is having and the debate that the american government and the american media is ...

>> putin's actions so far have demonstrated first of all that the russian military is nowhere near as capable as the world perhaps thought it was. probably not as capable as putin thought it was. and they need to understand that if the brutality here increases, the united states will contemplate and consider every possible range of actions along with our nato allies. >> joining me now, retired u.s. army brigadier general peter zwaki. do you agree with liz cheney's assessment of the russian military? >> yes, i do. i think i spent a lot of time in russia and counterparts. colonel vindman is goin...

Longer have the commanding control structure and some of these places, to recover the bodies of the fallen service members. stephanie? >> think of that. ukrainians are being told, leave your dead family members outside, in the street. it's unsafe to do anything else. well ukraine, and the red cross, are working to send the bodies of russian members of the military home. think about that. cal, thank you so much for your reporting tonight, and every day. with that, let's bring in our experts this evening. phil rucker, pulitzer prize -winning, deputy national editor at the washington post. retire...