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Got the endorsement of john kerry. still doesn't have the endorsement of former president obama. real quick, what are your thoughts on where we are with biden and buttigieg? >> it's interesting, mayor buttigieg is showing he's new to national politics with some of the things that are tripping him up. we know joe biden, exactly who he is, where east been, what he stands for, how he's led on environmental issues since the 1980s in the senate. he has strong, people of color support in south carolina, nevada and others. that's where mayor buttigieg is doing well, in iowa, which is not representati...

Harris when it comes to people of color support. >> talking about biden, do you think the fact these he's apolo earer the fact it took two weeks to do so with many of us, including me, saying he should do it, that this was an offensive thing while the others justified it. es for will this close it or will there be some lingering doubt among some voters, particularly black voters? >> i think if i could quantify it, i would venture to say a vast majority of african-american cans will not be bothered by this. i think you have a small majority who will. i do recall during that tiemt nbc had many r...

I wanted to take a look at this poll. look at these numbers. overall, there is a vast opposition in the public to paying college athletes. but when you break those numbers down by race, you see a real distinction. according to this abc "washington post" poll, 51% of people of color support paying college athletes. but opposition among white americans is at 73%. usa, we need to think clearly about what the actual job is that these student athletes are doing. >> that's right. so race absolutely has a role to play in this. we shouldn't pretend that it doesn't. we're talking about in this case in ...