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Dysfunction that. >> you have strong feelings about this. >> every decade, you get people like peter faulk as columbo or somebody you just can't imagine anybody else afterwards, and james gandolfini is that in tonisa plan owe. >> alexander graham bell was italian? >> you see? antonio maoucci invented the telephone and he got robbed. everybody knows that. >> who invented the mafia? >> it took the mystery out of being a mobster. ♪ i'm afraid of doing your dirty work ♪ ♪ oh, yeah >> and it was more mundane than we thought it would be, yet every bit as riveting as "the godfather". >> you are...

>> you have strong feelings about this. >> every decade, you get somebody like peter faulk as columbo, somebody you can't imagine afterwards. >> i think it's supposed to be a mafia story. >> it's about every day life. >> did you know an italian invented the telephone? >> alexander graham bell inwas italian? who invented the mafia. >> what? >> the sopranos took the mystery out of being a mobster. ♪ i'm a fool to be doing your dirty work ♪ ♪ oh, yeah >> and it was somehow more mundane than we guessed it would be and yet every bit as riveting as "the godfather." >> the debate raged at hbo a...

>> you won't even accept food from your own mother. >> "the sopranos" was david chase's invention about this mob family, something that people hadn't seen before. the idea that a mobster is seeing a therapist. >> whatever happened to gary cooper? the strong, silent type. that was an american. he wasn't in touch with his feelings. he just did what he had to do. once they got gary cooper in touch with his feelings, they didn't know they wouldn't be able to shut him up. and then it's dysfunction this, dysfunction that. >> you have strong feelings about this. >> every decade, you get somebody like...

That. >> you have strong feelings about. >> every decade you have somebody like columbo or carroll o'connor as archie bunker, you can't imagine anybody else afterwards and james gandolfini is that in "the sopranos". >> did you know an italian invented the telephone. >> alexander graham bell invented the telephone. >> you see? antonio -- >> who invented the mafia? >> what? >> they took the mystery out of being a mobster. ♪ i'm a fool to do your dirty work ♪ >> and it was somehow more mundane than we guessed it would be and yet every bit as riveting as "the godfather." >> you were like a bro...

Even though they kept talking to fred. >> we kept going to the husband. >> reporter: playing dumb, of course, but hoping he'd panic and call el cubano. >> i mean, at the point we were calling almost every day but, again, trying to give a reason so he wouldn't become more suspicious than what he was. >> reporter: oh, just one more question, sir. >> exactly. i felt like columbo. oh, one more, sir. >> reporter: this was a game, of course, with deadly consequences. and it was about to get real. death has a way of bringing people together, as it did in the case of lynn schockner. she was a privat...