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Distinction anymore between russian government officials and russian organized crime, but if i were working in that nether world, and, you know, i was looking for somebody who wanted -- who needed a lot of money, and i had some rubbles i needed cleaned, i know where i'd look. >> leon, at what point does the sort of com la tiff effect of these pronouncements start to penetrate the right? at what point do conservatives, republicans start to care? >> you know, it's difficult for me to say. i think most of the people that i talked to on the right have mostly totally tuned this issue out, to be a h...

Living before he was president of the united states? real estate, and the reality tv show. >> it's significant also that the other figure, i guess we've settled on a number on the meeting with donald trump jr., right? we aren't waiting for -- >> as we know. as far as we know. >> yeah. i mean, we haven't got a leak now that the bolshoi was performing in the living room while they were having this meeting. the guy was looked into for money laundering. if i were a russian -- i don't know there's any real distinction anymore between russian government officials and russian organized crime, but if ...