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Realize that they should do whatever they think is in the best interests of their kids and likewise for the kids. >> so let's talk about the best interests there. and there are a lot of people who question the safety, the efficacy of the vaccines. they think that it is in the best interests of their families to avoid them. there is a survey of those, the reasons for those who are definitely or probably won't get covid vaccinations. we see that 51% of people are concerned about possible side effects. that is the top reason. but as we hear from the administration that there is this start of this...

About 48%, roughly half the country is fully vaccinated and we're seeing this trajectory line. so those trend lines are going in the wrong direction. what i'm worried about is given the delta variant and how transmissable it is and we can contextualize that, we can start to turn into a situation where you have not vaccinated and vaccinated in this country, you're going to have vaccinated and infected. this is an unforgiving variant. it has a thousand times roughly the viral load according to some of these studies as compared to the original strain of covid. so this is -- this is a call to say ...

And the best way to do that is promote accurate information about elections. election officials are probably the best source for accurate election information about the elections they are running, so social media companies should be doing more to promote posts, give election officials free advertising. i do think one of the best way to say combat disinformation is with truthful information. there's a lot more we can be doing on that front. >> absolutely. you're absolutely right about that. lawrence norden, unfortunately we have to talk about this in this day and age, but we're glad to have you...