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That will cause a stampede effect. and that will create additional injuries. like i said, a good example of that was in a nonterrorist related incident in the muslim city of hoe -- holy city of mecca, they lost over a thousand people, not because of any critical incident, but because of religious where people wanted to get to where they had to get and it created mass stampedes that killed over a thousand people. when terrorist planner gets this into his mind, it becomes a very, you know, efficient way of multiplying whatever your combat effect is on to the -- on to your victim audience. so by ...

The arab league members to use that air power and to use the planes, lockheed martin planes, is going to sort of handicap this venture? i know a lot of them for humanitarian mission, what have you. the fire power we assumed we would have, psychologically important, to say nothing of defensively important, isn't there? >> yeah, i think the damage is more one of perception, rather than one of the actual combat effect. i just returned from jordan, position, and from israel and the perception there is that this is a u.s. war and additional aircraft from the arab countries, i think, in terms of mil...