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daniel ellsberg. they failed. and today he is still warning the american people about the dangers of unchecked military power. but are they listening? daniel ellsberg, welcome to hardtalk. glad to be with you. it's a great pleasure to be at your home. now, you have lived a long and a very full life. and i guess the truth is, you know that you will always be associated with one extraordinary decision you took to leak the pentagon papers. does it bother you that that is the thing that people think about you? no. well, i know that it is, but i've lived with that for a long time. my inte...

president lula is expected to attend the wake on tuesday before the funeral procession. pele died on thursday aged 82. now on bbc news, it's hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur and today i'm in beautiful northern california to meet the man once described by henry kissinger as the most dangerous in america. in 1971, that man, my guest daniel ellsberg, leaked the so called pentagon papers. he exposed decades of us government lies about the war in vietnam. the nixon administration was enraged. they tried to destroy daniel ellsberg. they failed. and toda...

Then i was in vietnam, but then i read the pentagon papers. i knew, coming back from vietnam, as everyone knew coming back who'd been involved in combat extent, because we were not going to win. we were not going to get these guys to quit. they were not going to quit. some of your critics, i'm going to quote one of them. he's an academic called gabriel schoenfeld. he has written about your decision. and he said, "there is a fundamental arrogance "about what daniel ellsberg did" because, he said, and i'm going to quote him, he said, "you know, we have a system for controlling critical "national...

Coming back who'd been involved in combat extent, because we were not going to win. we were not going to get these guys to quit. they were not going to quit. some of your critics, i'm going to quote one of them. he's an academic called gabriel schoenfeld. he has written about your decision. and he said, "there is a fundamental arrogance "about what daniel ellsberg did" because, he said, and i'm going to quote him, he said, "you know, we have a system for controlling critical "national security secrets." very, very well controlled. yes. and he said, "you know, this is established by the congres...

I'd been part of that. i look back on that with amazement, almost. then i was in vietnam, but then i read the pentagon papers. i knew, coming back from vietnam, as everyone knew coming back who'd been involved in combat extent, because we were not going to win. we were not going to get these guys to quit. they were not going to quit. some of your critics, i'm going to quote one of them. he's an academic called gabriel schoenfeld. he has written about your decision. and he said, "there is a fundamental arrogance "about what daniel ellsberg did" because, he said, and i'm going to quote him, he s...