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Harder it gets. there is a question about how long they can sustain the size of occupation. where as if ukraine can stay in the fight, logistics, convoys, bypassing some of the major combat formations, the longer they stay in the fight, the more weapons to get from the west, the more reserves get trained up and civilians, and the more the sanctions bite on the russian war machine. there is a space and time dimension going on as with all conflicts. ., ., , ., ~' conflicts. how well do you think the ukraine defences _ conflicts. how well do you think the ukraine defences are _ conflicts. how wel...

There's really no other word for it, in combat, risky missions. carol? >> the president said earlier when he spoke in paris that the problem was a lack of intelligence on the ground and that's why the united states isn't conducting more air strikes over syria. >> i think that's right. what they are looking for is that fine, granular intelligence, on a given day if you have aircraft flying over raqqah, syria, where are the civilians? where is the isis leadership? where are the isis weapons? if you're flying over iraq and you see vehicles on the road, do you know if those are isis fighters comin...

Debates. while the strategy is the right strategy, it just needs to be set up. >> i think it does need to be sped up and intensified. i think while isis is a long-term problem for us, we have near-term issues associated with it. all you have to do is look at the downing of the russian airliner and the attacks in paris and the attacks in beirut and so on. so we have a near term problem that needs to be addressed or a near-term challenge from isis that needs to be addressed but when i hear people talk about a completely different strategy, i don't know what that is. putting tens of thousands of ...

They are trying to accomplish. what their goals are. as i said. most of these countries have another agenda. the saudis are worried about iran, the turks more about the kurds and so on. but they're both united in the fact that assad has to go before you can make progress against isis. i think we need to listen to them if we want them to be active and aggressive members of the coalition. but the reality the you hear people talk about sending combat formations from arab nations into iraq to fight isis, that's just not going to happen. first they are not going to send their troops, not willing to...

Lindsay just mentioned libya. they're metastasizing all over the middle east. and we do not have a regional strategy. we think some number of troops, along with this coalition, would be the way to take out isis. and to also make sure that bashar al assad leaves power as well since he is the butcher that has killed 250,000 of his own people. >> senator graham, i've read that you are proposing a 100,000 strong force, provided by egypt, turkey and saudi arabia. this weekend, former secretary of defense, robert gates, said that will not work. let me play for you what he said. >> you hear people ta...