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Offensive threat. we are not giving ukraine offensive capabilities. are we egging them on to try to win a war they cannot win? what does that say about the threat profile we are creating? >> we have to be pretty sober about what is possible. right now, russia has just mobilized 300,000 troops. they have reportedly about 150,000 in position right now training to get ready for their own offenses sometime this winter, potentially within weeks or daze from now. that's according to ukraine and russian sources. that is expected. then you have ukraine suffering extraordinary casualties in baku of don...

Have heard the german minister of defense say earlier that they've not made a decision on the provision of leopard tanks. we're really focused on is making sure that ukraine has the capability that it needs to be successful right now. so we have a window of opportunity here between now and the spring when i -- whenever they commence their operation, they are counter offensive. and that is not a long time. if we have to pull together the right capabilities. and you heard the chairman walk through some of the substantial combat power that we and some of our allies have offered to provide. there ...

Andrew harding reports. we are in an area where russian and ukrainian infantry now appear to be fighting at close quarters. clambering through the remains of a house here, hit by a shell. very active frontlines this morning. ukrainians have withdrawn but they are now trying to pound the russian positions as hard as they can to prevent them from advancing here and encircling the next big prize, which is the town of bakhmut, which have been defending fiercely for months now. and so we are at a critical phase in the war. these next two days, the united states and the europeans will take important...

Wants some sanctions relief, wants to rebuild that military so he can kick this thing into high gear again and finish his mission of taking over ukraine. >> you say the russians can't win in the battlefield. they're trying to win in at least one city in the donetsk region. the russians claim that they're encircling this city. but the ukrainians say they are defending it even as russia tries to throw more forces at it. what do you think the russians are trying to get out of this very focused, what they claim to be, offensive on the city? >> well, look, the way you operate in the military is you...

Are trying to get out of this very focused, what they claim to be offensive on this city? >> well, look, the way you operate in the military as you do need to focus their combat power. so, they're focusing it on this point. and if they take bakhmut, it opens the door stores problems -- but it also serves as a killing ground, grinding up the ukrainian for says. and this is what they want to do if they -- unbearable pressure on the ukrainian forces. before they can bring the other for a says back from kherson, to bear, if they can cause ukrainians to blank, to request a cease-fire. to ask for a ...