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That we're seeing right now, which is being won. this is a foot race of our logisticians against the logisticians of russia. those are two powerful factors that would tell us we don't know how this is going to come out, and i wouldn't bet against the ukrainians. certainly holding those lines and being able to blunt a major russian offensive. but, joe, on the other hand there is a significant amount of combat power that is flowing forward. it is not well-managed combat power. it is certainly not well-led combat power. it doesn't have the kind of motivation that the ukrainians have on their side...

Explain what they saw, but particularly those who have experienced that casual cruelty, the willingness to indulge in grotesque violence that has really come to define the russian occupation of these communities around kyiv. >> terrorized by drunk soldiers. phil black, appreciate it. thank you. perspective now from the brutality of the war from samantha powers. her previous work as ambassador to the u.n. and member of the national security council she's rallied the u.n. and other nations to focus on human rights and atrocities across the globe. ambassador power, russia's pulled forces out of n...

Both parties. the russians don't want to go in there and fight, you know, room to room in underground spaces. they would take massive casualties. at the same point, the ukrainian military can't last much longer due to food and water. >> are we giving ukraine the type of weapons it needs to win this war in the east? >> i think slowly it's happening, chuck, but it's really a retail sales of logistics at this point. can the russians move their combat power to the east and put it into attack corridors? s there some artillery, some preparation on the battlefield. you're seeing some russian reconnai...

Have the wherewithal to defend their homeland, how is the military aid getting to the places that it's so desperately needed? >> our logistics are the best. they are getting it to the edge, to the border and advising ukrainians about the trains, that's part of it. it's also being trucked. it's being moved in every conceivable way. by the way, the ukrainians are still flying some of those weapons forward. the russians do not demand complete control of the skies, again. see paragraph one about why it's so important we put additional combat power so the ukrainians can put up a ukrainian combat zo...

Ukrainian forces will not surrender. willie. >> let's go over to the big board for more on this with national security analyst for nbc news and msnbc, clint watts. good morning. sergey lavrov, the foreign minister for russia, said yesterday, quote, another phase of this operation is starting now, talking about the invasion now on the eastern front. that's a long stretch of the border, isn't it, about 300 miles from kharkiv down to mariupol. what do these early hours look like so far? >> willie, so what we're seeing here in the east is the buildup of combat power, but it's at a pretty slow pace...