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Afghanistan and he says to himself we tried this in 2001, 2002, it didn't work, and i don't think you can divorce the personal element of this which is the fact, jake, as he will say, he is the first president to have had a son in a combat role since jimmy carter and before that president eisenhower. he took that seriously. he had a lot of contacts with people in the united states who had september their sons and daughters off to fight and this looms large in his mind and in his end when he had the opportunity to pull the policy through over the resistance of many cases military leadership he ...

Approach to afghanistan the wrong one, the approach of training the afghan forces the wrong one, was it a us model? what did the nato forces and the allied forces get so wrong with the country for it to collapse so quickly?— with the country for it to collapse so tuickl ? ,, ., so quickly? the assessment that even with the announcement _ so quickly? the assessment that even with the announcement of— so quickly? the assessment that even with the announcement of the - with the announcement of the american withdrawal and i think the speed with which they did that was a mistake and i said that...

Rapid fall of the government in kabul. if you wanted to make certain you had a safe recovery of the american allies and the american staff itself, then you would have held on to bagram as long as possible. that's the thing the taliban feared from the united states most. our combat role ended over a year and a half ago. the last combat death was a year and a half ago. what we had that was the big power that we held over the taliban was the control of the air and the ability to rain down hell from above. yet one of the first things we gave up in this very precipitous withdrawal was the air force...

Let's get out of berea. you think asia would look like it does today. what would've happened if we would've withdrawn from those areas in the same thing here. the combat role was ended, the last american casualty was february of 2020. we had a small group of people, but they were powerful, they provided intelligence gathering leadership, and most important, they had airpower. the one thing that was keeping the tallow band in check was th realization that if they ever presented themselves to america airpower, they have the support of the afghan ground fighters, they were going to be dead. for u...

Interest. >> mr. secretary, blinken seems to be saying this was the least of all bad options, what we're watching right now. >> well, you're right in the fact that there were no good options. but let's go back to 2014, jim. i was secretary of defense at the time. that's when president obama said america's combat role, our mission is over. we pulled out tens of thousands of troops. we closed hundreds of bases, and president obama said, every president has said before and after obama, we're not going to be there forever. that was the beginning, 2014, of the end of our presence, the beginning of ...