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Bilateral. >> t.p.p. gave abe cover to open up long protected markets in japan. it was a strategic agreement. it didn't include china. it was a way to call countries of the asia pacific closer to the united states at an important point in time. president trump's issue on the bilateral deal seems to echo the deal where he uses the tariff as a lever to press japan to open up their markets. in south korea that resulted in so-called managed trade where they basically agreed to quotas, we buy x, you buy y, and not the kind of broad opening that t.p.p. achieves. i hope that's not where we going with...

Their primary ally in asia, vis-a-vis, the negotiations with north korea and china. if he goes, the chinese are going to exploit it and our interests over there are going to be hurt. i think he should rethink that strategy on trade with japan right now. >> paul: you and i, mary, both lived in asia. we covered japan's economy. and this issue of its domestic market has been a long-standing one. we've complained for decades, rightly so, about protection for agriculture, protection for retail, protection for services, protection for automobiles. >> brett b pretty much everythi. >> paul: all these ...