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Everything turned after the second set of comey letters, that that last 11 days they came out of the election winning and that james comey changed it all. they're not acknowledging they got the battleground wrong or didn't send her to wisconsin. there is a little bit of defensiveness there, but they are pointing out they think they lost the philadelphia suburbs and the milwaukee suburbs, the college-educated white voters and a lot of women. after that second comey letter, and the follow-up letter two days before the election, or sunday before the election. so they're very bitter about that, bu...

People what they are. >> and i imagine there wasn't any mention that we got the election wrong. >> the real argument is that everything turned after the second set of comey letters, that that last 11 days they came out of the election winning and that james comey changed it all. they're not acknowledging they got the battleground wrong or didn't send her to wisconsin. there is a lgt bittle bit of defensiveness there, but they are pointing out they think they lost the philadelphia suburbs and the milwaukee suburbs, the college-educated white voters and a lot of women. after that second comey le...

Things that there's not one simple answer to what happened here. >> on the comey letters, karen, it has been in the reporting and kind of the conversations coming out of donor phone calls with hillary clinton and other members of team clinton, it's been described, the comey letters, as one hurdle too many for the campaign to overcome. without the comey letters, would you guys have won? are you sure of that? >> you know, you can never be sure of anything in hindsight. what i would say, it certainly felt that way. again, having been on the road, you know, we were seeing increasing sizes of crowd...