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Get along well. they have intelligent conversations about these things behind closed doors. he's passionate. i think what you saw yesterday was a person. for the average person in wisconsin, they don't get wrapped up in senate rules. what they see is someone finally standing up and fighting. i think for that he's to be commend ed. as far as, like, fighting over whether a cloture vote makes sense, that's something that's totally in the weeds. >> i don't think people pay attention either. i have to write it six times in my notes so i understand it. >> it's another 30 hours. you had karl rove on ...

Get along well. they have intelligent conversations about these things behind closed doors. he's passionate. i think what you saw yesterday was a person. for the average person in wisconsin, they don't get wrapped up in senate rules. what they see is someone finally standing up and fighting. i think for that he's to be commend ed. as far as, like, fighting over whether a cloture vote makes sense, that's something that's totally in the weeds. >> i don't think people pay attention either. i have to write it six times in my notes so i understand it. >> it's another 30 hours. you had karl rove on ...