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Interview with doherty instead which we did. we had one basic question we wanted an answer to. did you hear the whole conversation between them or not? well, we're still trying to figure out what he said. the report is stating here that mayor doherty heard the conversation. an independent eyewitness who heard the conversation and can conclusively say this did not come up. can you conclusively say this did not come up or are there parts of the conversation you did not hear? >> there may have been parts of the conversation i did not hear. what i can tell you for sure, what i did hear was about h...

Zimmer may have been associating the subjects in her own mind but that's not what constable said." "doherty simply is telling the truth as he recalls it. corroborates commissioner constable, not mayor zimmer." now here's the problem. when zimmer first made her allegations back in january, a reporter for the "asbury park press" who knew doherty had been present at the town hall meeting asked if he heard the conversation and he told that reporter that he hadn't. he said he recalled sitting between zimmer and constable on stage. that is a recollection that is incorrect. he was seated a bit off to...

Let's close! new at&t mobile share value plans our best value plans ever for business. you believe that you did not hear mayor zimmer say any of this, anything that she alleges took place. you believe you heard the entire conversation and you believe then she was fabricating this. >> i don't believe she is fabricating anything. >> you heard the conversation, you did not hear this. >> i did not hear commissioner constable in any way, shape or form threaten mayor zimmer. absolutely not. >> right. and you're saying you are confident you heard the conversation. >> i am confident. >> so she is ma...

Row. that's matt doherty in the seat to the left. they state as fact that, quote, mayor doherty heard the conversation between mayor zimmer and commissioner constable and was with them on stage both before the start of the show and throughout the broadcast. the report states that doherty was well positioned to hear the conversation between mayor zimmer and commissioner constable. he was at the end of the first row and, therefore, not speaking with anyone else when mayor zimmer spoke with commissioner constable. the report says matt doherty heard what they said to each other and then, quote, ma...

Stage about hazard mitigation and explaining to me here is how the money is supposed to come in. at the end of the day hazard mitigation is through another entity altogether. >> so you believe that you did not hear mayor zimmer say any of this, anything that she alleges took place. you believe you heard the entire conversation, and you believe then that she was fabricating this? >> i don't believe she is fab i fabricating anything. i did not hear commissioner constable in any way, shape or form, threaten mayor zimmerman. absolutely not. >> right. and you are confident you heard the conversatio...